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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:29 pm 
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Peter Laidler wrote:
My take on this regarding the colour would be this. If you can't find what the original colour was and the shell hasn't got a chassis number, then noone else in the world is going to know what colour it was. And better still, no one else in the whole wide world will EVER know what colour it was. So just paint it appropriately, to your choice, with a colour of the period. End of! Cheating....... not really I say

I'd also say that it's not really cheating.
Out of interest...were any NMP shells used for works cars ??


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:36 pm 
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Peter Laidler wrote:
My take on this regarding the colour would be this. If you can't find what the original colour was and the shell hasn't got a chassis number, then noone else in the world is going to know what colour it was. And better still, no one else in the whole wide world will EVER know what colour it was. So just paint it appropriately, to your choice, with a colour of the period. End of! Cheating....... not really I say


hi

you are probably right

I know what you are saying...

I was trying to obtain vintage certificate showing all the correct numbers so then depending on original color I was going to put it back

currently the car is prim rose yellow with white roof

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:39 pm 
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AustinSuperSeven wrote:
A lot of 1962 Supers had NMP on the front panel.....

Just checked my April built 62 Super... NMP on front panel and Front End number is FE313***......
Just hope you can find a number!



so is your car Austin or Morris...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:08 am 
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It's an Austin but built in the Morris factory.... got a M at the end of my VIN number.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:20 am 
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Vintage to Classic wrote:
Hi, this is my first post on here so please be gentle with the new boy!!!
Interesting post this, I was wondering if anyone on here knew of any numbers to look for on a British Built Mk1 Austin Moke? The shell looks original but it would be nice to know where to look to confirm this??
Thanks in advance!


There is very little to go on when looking at a Moke, even less than on a normal MK1. If the chassis plate is missing then it is really down to looking at the shell. As so few Mokes were built in the UK (about 1600), it is usually best to start from a position of looking at other possibilities & once you have discounted them, it's almost certainly a Brit one.

Some UK built shells went to Aus & became the very first little wheeler Mokes, but even these had a few bits that didn't appear on UK built models. Easiest to spot is a diagonal piece of angle iron going from the bottom of the screen pillar to the outside of the pontoon, all Aussie ones have this no UK ones do.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:35 am 
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I'd suggest that FE number dates to the end of '62.


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Not mentioned so far in this thread so worth adding that NMP plates are only to be found on Cowley assembled cars. Appreciate the FE numbers were not sequential on assembly but that number (FE306116) is around 104400 lower than my 8th November '62 Austin Super de luxe so would suggest it's more likely to be well over a year earlier than that as total annual production figures at Cowley were only around 65,000 in that period? Given the doors, boot etc. could of been replaced over the years, the best clue as to the original model type is to look for evidence of boot board brackets as that would make it a Super, and are the rear quarter lights opening (Deluxe / Super) or fixed (basic).


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dodge44 wrote:
Not mentioned so far in this thread so worth adding that NMP plates are only to be found on Cowley assembled cars. Appreciate the FE numbers were not sequential on assembly but that number (FE306116) is around 104400 lower than my 8th November '62 Austin Super de luxe so would suggest it's more likely to be well over a year earlier than that as total annual production figures at Cowley were only around 65,000 in that period? Given the doors, boot etc. could of been replaced over the years, the best clue as to the original model type is to look for evidence of boot board brackets as that would make it a Super, and are the rear quarter lights opening (Deluxe / Super) or fixed (basic).


so my car is assembled in Cowley ..... ( Austin or Morris)

maybe a 1961

I will look for boot board brackets ,,they would have been spot welded on ... later cars were riveted

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and are the rear quarter lights opening (Deluxe / Super) or fixed (basic)


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I don't understand that one

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:49 pm 
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"I will look for boot board brackets ,,they would have been spot welded on ... later cars were riveted"

Other way round. Early cars riveted, later cars welded.

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Jim1071 wrote:
dodge44 wrote:
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and are the rear quarter lights opening (Deluxe / Super) or fixed (basic)


I don't understand that one

thank you

everyone :)

Sorry, perhaps I should of said rear side windows. The glass window did not open on basic Mini's - it was just held in with a rubber seal. The glass was mounted in a chromed brass frame on Deluxe and Super models and opened by pivoting from a long piano hinge on the front vertical edge a catch at the rear (Later Mk1's are 2 spring clips vice the hinge). From that picture you certainly have opening rear windows now so guessing they are likely to be original - unless of course they have been added later, then the only way you will know if they were not original fitment is if the installer failed to drill all five mounting holes in the 'B' post on each side, and only did the two or three that will suffice to do the job....


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