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 Post subject: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:07 pm 
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Well the Dvla have sent my aplication to register my South Afican 1960 mk1 back, saying because the SA log sheet sayes "built up", they class it as a kit car and say it will need a new chassis no and an SVA, then a Q plate :cry: .
Obviously I wont be going down this road,
My question is havent they got this wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:07 pm 
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I was told the same thing when I had to register my Australian Mk1 in the UK. I did point out to the DVLA that EVERY new car is built from parts........ Eventually and with help from the Mini Cooper Register, all was sorted out and I was granted an age related plate.


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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:02 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:12 pm 
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I'd imagine a letter from one of the 'approved' clubs or specialists would be sufficient to clarify the use of the term 'built up' and that it refers to a locally assembled vehicle when NEW to resolve their confusion.

Hope you get it sorted - ironic it comes at the same time it appears the DVLA have seen sense in the same sort of area regarding historically modified / 'built up' cars in the UK!

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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:14 pm 
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they have got this wrong as they missunderstand what a CKD car is, in that it was supplied from BMC to a BMC factory as a kit of parts to be built up into an entire car, not a car built from a kit of bits.

you need to go back to them and tell them that they are wrong and give them proof of what a CKD car is.

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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:33 pm 
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I heard of another case like this regarding a Morris Minor van recently. As Rich says they don't understand the South African meaning of "built up".

I have imported a few cars from South Africa in the last few years and I never send the SA registration documents to DVLA. Instead I send a dating letter from the British Mini Club ( any club approved by the DVLA will do ). The reason I do this is because the DVLA will not return the SA reg. document and I like to keep it as part of the cars history. Doing it this way also does away with the "built up" issue altogether.


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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:48 pm 
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rich@minispares.com wrote:
NICK
they have got this wrong as they missunderstand what a CKD car is, in that it was supplied from BMC to a BMC factory as a kit of parts to be built up into an entire car, not a car built from a kit of bits.

you need to go back to them and tell them that they are wrong and give them proof of what a CKD car is.


Reading the opening post, I agree.

It appears they have formed a view that the car was built by 'someone' out of parts and that it wasn't a factory built car.


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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:51 am 
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If you are looking for some "official published" documentation to explain CKD there's the BMC in Australia document published by British Motor Corporation (Australia) located here:

http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.u ... mc_aus.pdf

On page 9 it says:

C.K.D. is the import of vehicles, in components, or "completely knocked down" condition in easily transportable packing cases for assembly in the market for which they are destined.

Can't get much clearer than that.


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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:05 am 
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winabbey wrote:
If you are looking for some "official published" documentation to explain CKD there's the BMC in Australia document published by British Motor Corporation (Australia) located here:

http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.u ... mc_aus.pdf

On page 9 it says:

C.K.D. is the import of vehicles, in components, or "completely knocked down" condition in easily transportable packing cases for assembly in the market for which they are destined.

Can't get much clearer than that.


That's exactly what I'm looking for :)

You would have thought the DVLA would have this quiry on their records wouldn't you!


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 Post subject: Re: Registering a CKD
PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:32 pm 
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Nick is the registration date on the reg papers of your car 1960? In SA, if a car has been off the road, and off the registration system, for long it can be re-registered as a built up car. The registration date will then be the date the vehicle was re-introduced onto the eNatis system, usually recent like 2017. That could also explain a built up description on the reg docs.

Trevor gave great advice though.

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