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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:01 am 
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eightport wrote:
Just to let everyone know, this car started life as a Mk2 left hand drive 998 mini


Brilliant, so now it's three cars not two. Keeps getting worse! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:31 am 
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With the amount of cars suddenly surfacing from the same builder do we think this is a 'pension' sell up or is it just coincidence with individual sales from different sellers ?


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:40 am 
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Lawd knows but if the cars were red and white or belonged to another particular faker we'd be accused of conducting a 'trial by internet', being misinformed, on a witch hunt ,all the usual stuff. I suppose the alternative is passive acceptance , if not encouragement of criminalty, stand by and watch people getting fleeced, depends which way your compass swings and sadly I'm finding it's swinging the totally wrong way in certain quarters!


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:41 am 
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Its a nice looking car though! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:38 pm 
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It IS a nice looking car and with an interesting and (sort of) plausible story if you don't dig too deeply :o
As we've said before, every car which Hales from that area has been a great looking car with a good deal of time and money spent.
It isn't THAT easy to build a car like that is it and nobody is knocking the workmanship as such.


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:10 pm 
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I refer back to the antiquities faker that did porridge for it. His work was good enough to fool the British Museum but ultimately he was a criminal. Amazing how many prioritise the 'quality' and turn a blind eye to the criminality in the Mini game.


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
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Given the quality of the restoration and period "authenticity", on these merits alone and ignoring the bogus history what would be a fair price for the car ?. In other words how much does he stand to gain going purely on the concocted story ?.


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
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Given the quality of the restoration and period "authenticity", on these merits alone and ignoring the bogus history what would be a fair price for the car ?. In other words how much does he stand to gain going purely on the concocted story ?.


Its not as simple as bogus history, it's bogus chassis numbers, bogus reg numbers, so what's underneath is worth whatever a very nice painted rolling shell is worth with no ID? probably about 30K less!


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:33 pm 
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Pete wrote:
111Robin wrote:
Given the quality of the restoration and period "authenticity", on these merits alone and ignoring the bogus history what would be a fair price for the car ?. In other words how much does he stand to gain going purely on the concocted story ?.


Its not as simple as bogus history, it's bogus chassis numbers, bogus reg numbers, so what's underneath is worth whatever a very nice painted rolling shell is worth with no ID? probably about 30K less!

Highly illegal then surely. If all of the facts are known what's to stop someone reporting the seller to the police ?. Blatant fraud isn't it ?. Otherwise this will keep happening and innocent folk will keep losing out. Of course the assumption is that the current seller is the wrong doer but this may not be the case which makes it difficult.


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 Post subject: Re: Baldyne racer??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:28 pm 
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Pete wrote:
I refer back to the antiquities faker that did porridge for it. His work was good enough to fool the British Museum but ultimately he was a criminal. Amazing how many prioritise the 'quality' and turn a blind eye to the criminality in the Mini game.


I couldn't agree with you more Pete. I'm not condoning it for a moment. What is for sale is, in reality, a nice collection of parts rather than a car.


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