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 Post subject: Bad luck for 977ARX
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:30 pm 
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:o Here dit it ends for 977ARX.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:43 pm 
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I believe this was Sprinzel/ Cave June 1963 Coupe des Alpes when a steering column pinch bolt came loose, causing a factory modification.
Then written off.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
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Very expencive rally sheld tough now a days.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
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The official story was that the bolt had been fitted across the splines of the column rather than the machined "flat" and the steering column was eventually pulled upwards and off the steering pinion.
Never seemed quite right (or even possible?) to me and the "came loose/ fell out" in above post seems more credible.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:30 am 
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LMM76C wrote:
The official story was that the bolt had been fitted across the splines of the column rather than the machined "flat" and the steering column was eventually pulled upwards and off the steering pinion.
Never seemed quite right (or even possible?) to me and the "came loose/ fell out" in above post seems more credible.


this can certainly happen, but the bolt sits above the steering rack splined part, so all that holds the two together is a very small part of the shaft.

even with the bolt tightened this very small bit cannot cope with the loads and soon strips

its quite a common error to make (and easy). I always fit the shaft then put a punch or a screw driver through the hole and pull the shaft backwards to make sure it doesn't come off, then refit the bolt.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
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A couple of years back I had a customer drop by the shop and ask if I had time to test drive his most recent mini purchase? Needing to drop a few things at the body shop I figured what the heck. Leaving the shop entering the interstate taking a ramp off all was fine. Turning into the body shop the column popped off the pinion. The shaft had been pushed just onto the splines I believe with the blot in place. Allowing them to engage but not completely. I have now decided no test drives without a complete inspection. I have one customer who I still refuse to test drive his car. He keeps bringing it in for more go fast but refuses to have safety concerns I have address. I no longer work for him.

I'm not sure what the out come would have been had the steering come apart at 70 mph. As Rich said the column splines below the bolt were stripped so replacing the the column without removing the bolt was no help moving the car around. Steve (CTR)


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
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Rebirthed by Peter Barker in the 90s.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
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Pete wrote:
Rebirthed by Peter Barker in the 90s.

Was there any incarnations between the crashed car pictured and the 90's rebirth ?


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
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Pete wrote:
Rebirthed by Peter Barker in the 90s.

I remember seeing it at the HRCR (I think) meeting at Hatton World, Warwickshire ( ? ) in the '90s, its first outing I think. Was painted White then. Got a photo somewhere!


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 Post subject: Re: Bad luck for 977ARX
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:15 pm 
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fricsman wrote:
Pete wrote:
Rebirthed by Peter Barker in the 90s.

I remember seeing it at the HRCR (I think) meeting at Hatton World, Warwickshire ( ? ) in the '90s, its first outing I think. Was painted White then. Got a photo somewhere!

Ahhh.....I wonder if there's any history between 64 and 90 ?
I'm curious Kees, out of all the available photographs of crashed / written off / discarded / chopped up ex Works Minis, why choose this one of 977 ARX first ?
Is this the start of an interesting thread ?

Dave


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