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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:23 pm 
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Hi everyone. Hoping I can get some help trying to narrow down the year and authenticity of a supposed 1970 1275gt.

Vin starts with XAD2
No commission tag
Body number starts with D20S
Engine tag starts with 12H706

Based upon this I think its a 74. Body number and Vin seem to conflict though. With that body number I would have expected an XE2D2 Vin.

A lot of the features of the car call it out being a 74+ car: larger fuel tank, no servo, grommets in wings.

Thoughts?

FYI I have not seen it in person yet, only pictures, I will if it seems promising but right now I can't tell if it's a legit/strange 74 gt or even just a regular clubman with a fake Vin plate or combo there of!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:49 pm 
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Grommets appeared early on in production, certainly before 74, maybe before the end of 70.
And the GT should have a D20Dxxxx body number.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:54 pm 
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Engine number for 1970 1275GT should start with 12H389, and the body number for 1970 1275GT should be D20D.

Also check front floor pan, an original 1970 car will have the alloy remote fitted, not a rod change.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:09 pm 
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Some info below from this site may help:-
https://classicregister.com/id-guides/h ... ni-1275-gt

The 1275GT came with a variety of engine prefixes, listed below:

12H379 = 1275GT with dynamo, negative earth, electric fuel pump and remote type gearbox
12H380 = 1275GT with alternator, negative earth, electric fuel pump and remote type gearbox
12H389 = 1275GT with dynamo, negative earth, mechanical fuel pump and remote type gearbox
12H390 = 1275GT with alternator, negative earth, mechanical fuel pump and remote gearbox
12H706 = 1275GT with alternator, negative earth, mechanical fuel pump and rod


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Thanks everyone. I have reviewed all the info out there, hence why I don't think it really is a 1970. I guess question is, with the above info, what would you guess is most likely incorrect? I'm thinking the Vin is wrong, that this is more like a 74+ 1275gt, as then the body number makes sense, as does the engine number assuming it's original. Could the Vin be accurate and this be one of the last 73/74 XAD2 vins and put on one of the first D20S bodies with the 74 changes, or is that just wishful thinking?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:24 am 
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Mattjackson86 wrote:
Could the Vin be accurate and this be one of the last 73/74 XAD2 vins and put on one of the first D20S bodies with the 74 changes, or is that just wishful thinking?

According to my assumption,depends on the number
For example, the first registration of the number XAD2 711XXXA is September 1972
To be from 1970, the Vin number should be about 100000
And to be from 1974 the number must be over a million


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:52 pm 
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The Vin shows XAD2-176xxxA. So by your logic a 70 maybe 71. Definitely doesn't match a body number then of D20S.

Something is fishy, so thanks for the information all!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:30 pm 
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A D20S body number is for the Clubman. As mentioned by Graham above, a GT shell would have a D20D body number. There were a few differences on the early Clubman and GT shells, hence the different prefixes. Most likely the car has been reshelled using an age related Clubman.


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