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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:34 pm 
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Yes, unfortunately its condition wasn't great after being left outside under that cover and it needed a full restoration in order to fully enjoy it, which of course was my father's main priority.

He clearly wasn't bothered about the monetary side of owning it else the car would've been sprayed surf blue, but it does retain all of the important performance upgrades (engine/suspension etc) and fixtures.

I'm not sure anybody is going to find a pristine original car unless it's been sealed in an air tight container for 50 years. The availability of old parts from certain auction sites makes it too easy to 'create' an original car, so even if you did see one, chances are it isn't. Its originality was of course affected after being sent straight off to Radfords to be de-seamed in 1964, so considering this fact, no amount of 'work' or purchasing of old parts would've helped here :(

On the plus side, this car has never been anywhere near any well known 'restorers' that seem to create cars from only their paperwork.

I think the estimate is reasonable, considering some of the prices I have seen of late, but who's to say what something is worth if two or more people want it.

It's my first foray into the auction world so be gentle :D


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:14 am 
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It is a nice car, and sounds like it retains some of its original ( and important ) parts. Good luck with the sale :D


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 10:38 am 
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The car sold well making £34,875 including premium.

www.silverstoneauctions.com/1965-downto ... i-cooper-s


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 10:53 am 
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Mixed results at Brooklands (all prices inc premium)

Average Mk2 Cooper £9,865
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... per-mk-ii/

"71" Mini with 1293 engine and track day/hillclimb potential £9,800
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... mini-1275/

Tidy looking usable '66 S seams cheap at £21,280
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... oper-to-s/

Restored '72 850 Auto £6.832
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... -mini-850/

Honest looking 60,000 mile Allegro £1,792, bargain of the day?
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... o-1100-dl/


No sales include the Fiesta Yellow Mk1 with £10,000 interior
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... ini-minor/

'69 Mk2 S
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... r-s-mk-ii/

1994 Mini Cabriolet
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... cabriolet/


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:38 pm 
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Tidy looking usable '66 S seams cheap at £21,280
https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auct ... oper-to-s/

Except it is not a Cooper S but a re-shelled 998 Cooper upgraded to S spec. Tidy enough car but a bit naughty with the title of the auction listing methinks. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:25 pm 
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Looking at this ad, seams the going rate for an 850 has climbed from around £12K to over £16K!

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C995848


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:22 pm 
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IF they can sell it for that. Like a lot of dealers, they ask high prices and seem prepared to sit on their stock for months or years until it sells. I suppose that's fine in a rising market. It is only during a slump that business model starts to suffer.......

I think we all might agree that it would be easily possible to spend that sum purchasing and old Mini and having it restored!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:07 am 
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How rare is this ERA with delivery mileage.
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic ... -from-new/

Sold my ERA in a moment of madness, and i do regret it.


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:27 am 
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haynes wrote:
Looking at this ad, seams the going rate for an 850 has climbed from around £12K to over £16K!

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C995848

There has been an apparently low mileage Mk 1 on Car & Classic for over six months at £16k. The one in the ad you mention was sold at a Brightwells auction for £10120 in May - that's some dealer mark up - and it still needs plenty of detail work sorting out so I can't see that going to a new owner for a long time at that price.

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:41 am 
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Interesting that the red Mini mentioned has boot board brackets fitted. Maybe a previous owner had ambitions for it??
The dealer selling it refers to "wider wheels" but they look standard to me?
A lot of money for a not significant Mk1 850 Mini but that seems to be what lazy dealers do now: Buy shiney cars at auctions, add several thousand pounds to them and sit on them until they sell. "Better than money in the Bank" :lol:


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