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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:20 am 
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Classic caravan anyone ?

https://stock.morrisleslie.com/stock/de ... eg=DRAYTON


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:03 am 
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^That would make a great go anywhere camper van.


Downton/Radford Cooper S?? at Silverstone this weekend. Also it must be an OHC engine as
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an H.R.G. Alloy Rocker covered a 731 rally cam,
. This may well have been a Radford at one time looking at the de-seamed body and mutant chrome trim, but there is not much else. It could be yet another collection of old paper work attached to an 850 shell.

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1965 ... i-cooper-s


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:33 am 
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surfblue63 wrote:
^That would make a great go anywhere camper van.


Downton/Radford Cooper S?? at Silverstone this weekend. Also it must be an OHC engine as
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an H.R.G. Alloy Rocker covered a 731 rally cam,
. This may well have been a Radford at one time looking at the de-seamed body and mutant chrome trim, but there is not much else. It could be yet another collection of old paper work attached to an 850 shell.

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1965 ... i-cooper-s


its not even a hrg cover...........


leaving the boot board brackets in the 'as delivered' black paint finish is a nice touch that most serious restorers miss.... :lol:


the 'elf' trim looks nice though, my black and gold heap had that fitted originally

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:05 pm 
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As the owner of that vehicle, I can answer any questions you like about it in order to stop all the speculation....

As for the cover...

EDIT: see below :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:18 pm 
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burger wrote:
As the owner of that vehicle, I can answer any questions you like about it in order to stop all the speculation....

As for the cover...

https://picclick.co.uk/Classic-Mini-HRG ... 92865.html

Look familiar..?


I usually steer clear of discussions of value but the rocker cover on the red car referred to above is NOT an HRG one, the one in the link above is, but the one on the car is different, this was available from a huge array of suppliers throughout the 80's & 90's, only being superseded by the type that is currently offered by MS. It has a squarer top, a different number of fins & no place to put the HRG badge.

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:35 pm 
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Burger,

Nice car! Sounds like a fantastic history too.

Is there any paperwork surviving for the Downton mods?

It is implied in the description that Downton did the 1974 mods including the body work & suspension, is this the case? Did they fit a head as well as the carbs & cam?

It's a shame that it hasn't retained it's grey paint job though.

I would certainly be interested to hear any more of the story you can share.

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:23 pm 
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I didn't even notice the number of fins :lol: but I was sure I found an image that matched it perfectly a while back that claimed to be HRG :cry:

During 1975, the previous owner's son restored the car and upgraded its performance, so that cover has been there since at least that year.

My father restored the car in 2004 and no modifications/alterations were made to the engine.

Here are 2 files that document the history and the contents of the history folder supplied to Silverstones.

I do thank you for the clarification though. Unfortunately, those that could produce a perfectly accurate account of the modifications since 1965 are now dead, I am left with what was conveyed to my father, who later discussed it with me.

The history folder includes images of the car with its grey interior, but I wanted the interior to match my father's chosen colour scheme. Incidentally, the car retains its original surf blue paintwork under the dash and under the rear seat to help authenticate the chassis.

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
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It looks nice but hardly "super original". Who writes that stuff... :|


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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:35 pm 
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I have to concur that some of the details have deviated somewhat beyond the history document I provided. I guess I don't posses that auctioneer flare..

I can assure you that the factual elements of the history are true, this is not a car that has been rolled in a ditch or welded together from umpteen shells though.

This was my father's pride and joy and it is regrettable that, primarily due to his wife's arthritis, he was unable to enjoy it as much as he would've liked before its condition deteriorated :(

With his health failing post restoration, he was robbed of both his retirement and the fun he would've had with this vehicle during his retirement.

My mother and I have never driven it and apart from it going a mile or so to our local MoT station (before it was SORNd) [driven by an experienced 'older' friend of mine :)] it has remained garaged.

Part of me doesn't want to sell it, some say it's no accident I've auctioned it during a day with both football and the Royal Wedding being on the calendar :D but it's been 9 years since my father died (and 5 since my mother died) and it needs to go somewhere that will cherish it and use it, rather than it being stuck in my garage.

Thanks for the positive comments, although I did mess up on the rocker cover (I'm no mini expert I'm afraid) I should add that the sales catalogue does correctly state an alloy rocker cover (not HRG).

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 Post subject: Re: At The Auctions
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:05 pm 
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That is a nice story / history, but in my opinion, as in many cases, the full restoration has taken away any originality that the car may have had :(


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