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bubbacluby
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by bubbacluby » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:29 pm
mk1 wrote: ↑ Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:53 am
Date codes on blocks read like this:
Assuming "S DD M Y" format of the block date code:
S = Shift. A=first, B=second
DD = one or two digit day-in-month
M=Month letter, see note below
Y=Year digit
So far, we have found photos/details of AEG312 blocks with all letters A through M except B,E,I.
I suspect letter "I" is skipped, so the resulting table would be:
A Jan
B Feb
C Mar
D Apr
E May
F June
G July
H Aug
J Sept
K Oct
L Nov
M Dec
Props to Paul Harris [TECH396] for the groundwork he did identifying sequences on other marques.
Here are some B's
251 ENG
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by 251 ENG » Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:20 pm
All 1071/970 blocks have it cast on front .
Early 1275 also on front then moved to backas in previous pictures
mini1973
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by mini1973 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:02 pm
mini1973
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by mini1973 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:06 pm
mk1 wrote: ↑ Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:26 pm
It wasn't available when John wrote the book. It was only deciphered by our members iain1967s & TECH396 in the last year or so.
iain1967s
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by iain1967s » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:32 am
Also recently
posted by NZmember is this comprehensive
MiniSpares page which has extensive cylinder head casting history, and includes an original BL document “Date Standard for Ferrous Castings” at the bottom which shows the same scheme was still being used into the 70s/80s.
Copy attached.
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janerick3
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by janerick3 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:25 pm
When were the castings changed over to thick flanges?
I have a thin-flange block that appears to have a September 1967 casting date (engine is in the car so it is hard to read).
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by mk1 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:41 pm
Sept 67 is the absolute last gasp of the thin flange block. I doubt there are any younger than that.
mini1973
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by mini1973 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:50 pm
iain1967s wrote: ↑ Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:32 am
Also recently
posted by NZmember is this comprehensive
MiniSpares page which has extensive cylinder head casting history, and includes an original BL document “Date Standard for Ferrous Castings” at the bottom which shows the same scheme was still being used into the 70s/80s.
Copy attached.
Thanks for all the information everyone.
Anyone have a list of Gearbox casting numbers?
251 ENG
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by 251 ENG » Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:09 pm
Here is a late thin flange
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Nevsmini
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by Nevsmini » Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:33 am
Any info on the earliest thick flange block casting.
251 ENG
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by 251 ENG » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:02 pm
Earlier dated one I have record of is 14/1/68 and was told it was vita race engine so it looks like thick and thin flange block had an overlap period.
Somebody did say once that Abingdon used them on 68 monte
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by BAD942B » Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:56 pm
so 30 D4A IS 30th April 64 ?
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by mk1 » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:12 pm
Date codes on blocks read like this:
Assuming "S DD M Y" format of the block date code:
S = Shift. A=first, B=second
DD = one or two digit day-in-month
M=Month letter, see note below
Y=Year digit
So far, we have found photos/details of AEG312 blocks with all letters A through M except B,E,I.
I suspect letter "I" is skipped, so the resulting table would be:
A Jan
B Feb
C Mar
D Apr
E May
F June
G July
H Aug
J Sept
K Oct
L Nov
M Dec
Props to Paul Harris [TECH396] for the groundwork he did identifying sequences on other marques
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by BAD942B » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:41 pm
this is the number below the dynamo that we fitted to the car in 1981
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by BAD942B » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:44 pm
and this is the spare early block with the number under the dynamo aswell
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by Ronnie » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:46 pm
Nevsmini wrote: ↑ Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:33 am
Any info on the earliest thick flange block casting.
251 ENG wrote: ↑ Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:02 pm
Earlier dated one I have record of is 14/1/68 and was told it was vita race engine so it looks like thick and thin flange block had an overlap period.
Somebody did say once that Abingdon used them on 68 monte
It looks like a thick flange on this one, Nov 66 build.
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by BAD942B » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:07 pm
another S block, later one
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by BAD942B » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:59 pm
BAD942B wrote: ↑ Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:56 pm
so 30 D4A IS 30th April 64 ?
what date is this code please, see photo
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by hinesy1275 » Fri May 03, 2024 6:39 am
OK here's one from 1974?
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